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If you could take a few moments to help me...
Poll #1144590 Email Communication (Business)

You send a long email, perhaps in response to a question from a meeting, and receive no response beyond that they are busy and will get with you later. You then surmise their feelings on the issue as:

Agreement
0(0.0%)
Disagreement
0(0.0%)
I Don't Care
2(12.5%)
Stop bothering me, kid.
3(18.8%)
More discussion is needed.
11(68.8%)

You send a quick note asking for hints and tips prior to an upcoming meeting on some work you are doing. You receive no reply. You surmise:

I'm doing great and they are busy.
0(0.0%)
I'm doing okay and they are busy.
7(50.0%)
I'm doing terrible and they are busy.
1(7.1%)
It's so bad they don't want to mention it. Resign immediately!
1(7.1%)
More discussion is needed.
5(35.7%)

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ninjakitten From: ninjakitten Date: February 26th, 2008 01:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
Honestly my surmise on the latter question is more "They're busy and either I'm doing okay or they're SO busy they missed my email," with the weight either way depending on things like whether I was asking "randomly, did you have any input" or "oh god I could use a couple suggestions please".
adric From: adric Date: March 2nd, 2008 11:38 am (UTC) (Link)

Indeed

In a particular anecdote the question was: "hey this 90d trial thing is about over, how I am doing, and did you want to have a meeting about it?"
faire_raven From: faire_raven Date: February 26th, 2008 02:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
Where's the "This guy is clearly being rude, inconsiderate, and certainly not helpful" button?

From: lafemmedesfemme Date: February 26th, 2008 02:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
yeah, that.
adric From: adric Date: March 2nd, 2008 11:38 am (UTC) (Link)
It could be said he is like that, often, but not always.
arie From: arie Date: February 26th, 2008 04:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
On the second one I just surmise they're busy and don't infer anything about the quality of my work based on them not replying.
adric From: adric Date: March 2nd, 2008 11:39 am (UTC) (Link)

Reasonable

but would you still surmise that in the midst (tail end) of a probationary promotion?
arie From: arie Date: March 2nd, 2008 03:31 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Reasonable

Yeah. I just don't worry about the quality of my work, really. I understand you're in a different position, so that tends to be the first thing you jump to, but even in your position (and/or theirs), I don't think the first logical assumption is that there's something wrong with you in this situation.
feyrieprincess From: feyrieprincess Date: February 26th, 2008 06:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
hate to be a wet blanket, but send out your resume, darlin, this doesn't sound good...
adric From: adric Date: March 2nd, 2008 11:58 am (UTC) (Link)

Thanks, hon

I'm doing some thinking and talking to a bunch of people to try and figure out what's going on.

Rez is mostly up to date and always online anyway: http://adric.net/resume/
.. could use a couple number tweaks s/2007/2008, s/~6 mo/~1 year/ , etc.
warsop From: warsop Date: February 26th, 2008 06:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
Without knowing the people involved, it's pretty much impossible to surmise anything, so I didn't vote.

In the case of the first, if I get a response saying "sorry, really busy, will look at this more later", I tend to ping them again. When I ping them again, and how I ping them again, depends on the urgency and timeliness of the issue. If it's something that I need to do now, then I'll try to find a way to discuss in person. My email ping times tend to be on the order of 3-5 business days, with obvious changes dependent upon deadlines etc. Regardless of how long they're taking to reply, I try not to ascribe opinions to them based on the length of reply.

In the case of the second, it depends on who I've sent it to. If it's to someone I know reasonably well, then I'll try to be casual about it during a hallway conversation or the linke. If it's to someone senior to me and I'm uncomfortable (say, I'm asking my manager for feedback about a sticky situation that I know my manager is pissed at me about -- been there, done that, will do it again, probably within the next week or two) then I'll mostly follow the same rules as the first, although I'm probably more likely to ping via email than a phone/office talk due to my own comfort levels.

Whether this is time to polish up your resume is up to you, and I'm not sure whether it should be related to your two questions here. You haven't been sounding terribly happy lately. You're in a way better position for shopping around for another position when you're employed than when you're not. So if you really are unhappy in your position and think that it's not going to improve, then yes, give the resume an update and poke your nose out to see what's out there.
adric From: adric Date: March 2nd, 2008 11:52 am (UTC) (Link)
In reverse (perhaps) I like my position and even more this company a lot, and have never got on with the uber boss, who this meeting ("review") was with. There's still room for growth here and plenty to learn, if I can develop ways to never speak to him again communicate with him. I'll mention here something I put in a mail about all this.

In the midst of the pummeling I flat out stated, "We have communication problems." and he shrugged it off and continued without remarking on it. This speaks volumes

I work weekends and nights. Although I may have spoken to him for work (mail, IM, quick call) I have not seen him casually since the Christmas party or so, nor will I unless I go back over to days.

And I also try not assign values to the length of lag for email (or even for IM which is even harder). I think however that the only data I have is that there was no substantive response until the meeting was scheduled abruptly. Also see next graph, as this behaviour is common and not just applied when he is being asked to put out money.

Continuing in reverse order (?) this behaviour is chronic. He replied to the second email with 'the busy haven't forgotten you' (and I acknowledged it cheerfully) but not at all to the first, and never answered my query, just scheduled the meeting. I learned to send the second one from previous attempts to get his attention, often for something he had asked me to do/answer. It's very frustrating, and would be even if we got along (which we do not).

And concluding with your closing remarks ... As case in point I do not wish to diminish my appreciation for your thoughts (everyone's here actually) by not responding until now. I was thinking about this crap enough last week without um, thinking about it on purpose.

Edited at 2008-03-02 11:53 am (UTC)
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